Is it possible to be restrictive and not have an ED?

Discussion in 'ED General' started by Nenuphar, Mar 15, 2019 at 2:47 PM.

  1. Basically what started this was I was having a chat with a friend and some of the things she was saying sounded like comments I would expect to hear from someone with an ED. I know its normal to practise a bit of dietary restraint but she mentioned how she never buys herself sweets/chocolate and only eats them if they’re bought for her as a present. When I said I have no restraint around popcorn so avoid it, she said she’s the same with crisps. Also she’s vegetarian and said she feels better for ethical reasons and because she feels less heavy after meals. But that’s a comment I hear from lots of non disordered vegans/vegetarians, then she said she dislikes eating beans/lentils because they make her feel full and green veggies dont. I guess its hard for me to distinguish between health conscious behaviour and disordered behaviour because there’s such a fine line between them. Also I guess its the motivation behind your behaviour too, going on runs and drinking water are healthy behaviours to practise but I know for me its mostly with the intention of increasing my calorie deficit but the behaviours themselves arent inherently disordered.
    I dont know, what do you guys think? (Sorry just realised how long winded this is)
     
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  2. I think you were right there at the end. It’s about the intention behind the behavior. I do it to get sickly thin. Others may do it to be healthy. Obviously totally different even if we do more or less the same things.
     
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  3. Disclaimer, some of what I'm saying might sound like I'm generalizing all non-disordered people and disordered people into similar groups with the same behaviors, but I don't mean to, I'm just saying things that seem to be common especially from my own frame of reference having been a normie myself.

    Yes, some of those habits and thought processes can be part of healthy behavior. It gets to be disordered due to intention like you said, and also disordered people have heavier/stricter restriction. Like it's totally normal to restrict junk food, dessert etc, but those of us with disorders might restrict food that normies consider healthy like fruit or anything that's more calorie-dense.

    Feeling too heavy after a meal can definitely be a thing for normies. Although it's usually a too-big portion or a grease-laden meal that tends to sit in your stomach like lead... the one thing you said about her that seems questionable is the thing about beans and lentils. Usually food that is healthier is perceived as feeling lighter, but not always. Some people are just more sensitive to feeling food sitting in their stomach.
     
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  4. She just seems like a normal healthy eater. The habits sound healthy. Whenever I would eat healthy and was thin, people would act like I was disordered despite it being healthy. It really pissed me off that normal society things shoveling chips and pizza in you is good or normal. I am only accepted by society if I am a starving fat ass or a skinny bitch that eats trash all the time. Actually being healthy and thin (18.5) freaks the normies out. Sorry this turned into a mini rant. lol

    I just want the world to know that magically skinny does not exist
    MAYBE for a brief window for taller than average young females and males but thats only because the body requires a fuck ton of calories to grow let alone gain.


    I also think she said the thing about the beans because it sounds cuter than:

    Beans make me fart like its going out of style
     
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  5. It sounds healthy appart from the not wanting to feel full thing, that’s kinda weird imo
     
  6. I was just thinking about something like this last night when a friend mentioned that he was on a fast. He's quite thin and does talk about his eating pattern every so often, but only when the topic comes up.

    Of course, I project ED onto every skinny person I see without remote consideration for the fact that regular people can listen to their hunger cues, fast for spiritual recalibration, and eat intuitively.

    Hard agree though- it depends on the intent.
     
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  7. I mean, disordered eating is a thing, but having it doesn't mean you have an eating disorder.
    I think the time of your brainspace that goes to food/dieting/exercise/etc usually is a way to tell if someone actually has an eating disorder.

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  8. Oh yes definitely possible. It’s quite fashionable to restrict in a non-ED manner. Go vegan. Go gluten free. Quit sugar. Do a spinach-smoothie detox. Quit lactose. Cut out red meats. Do low-carb. Do Paleo. Do a two week cabbage-soup-diet copied from a women’s magazine. I’ve seen them all, not all from the same person luckily ;)
     
  9. It's definitely possible to be restrictive without having an ED or being unhealthy in the slightest- be it in the form of cutting out animal products or in the form of simply limiting how much junk food you have, it's not an automatic sign of an ED.

    I don't even think there's anything wrong about her disliking to eat stuff that makes her feel full/heavy, it's really common to dislike eating stuff that'll make you legitimately full especially as breakfast or lunch when you're still going to be moving a lot and doing stuff during the day.

    It's definitely more complicated than just behaviors and I think you already worked the answer out for yourself- intention can and frequently is the difference between an ED or no ED.

    Vegan for ethics? Not necessarily ED. Vegan because then you have an excuse to avoid a lot of food? Probably ED.
     
  10. Thanks for the responses, I had a feeling she just eats healthily and takes care not to over indulge but understandably I have a tendency to see a lot of behaviour through an ED lense